Recording automation in Perform mode for Play+

[ambivalence]

What is the problem?

You can do crazy stuff with the Perform mode, but you cannot record it as an automation (and do more crazy stuff on top?).

How does it differ from Applying the perform mode’s effects permanently:

@ambivalence

there’s hell of a difference between applying some effect to a whole pattern and to just a couple of moments of it. for example, you won’t apply → save any «loop» effects to a whole pattern, right? also, currently you apply performance effects to a whole set of selected tracks, but with such automation lanes, on the contrary, you could record different performance activations/deactivations for each track separately. last, but not least, user could render it later.

What do you want to achieve?

Have some sort of automation lanes for those beautiful performance pads. Preferably, those lanes should be bound to the perform pads themselves, but not the settings these pads adjust, because they may become editable later and it would be a bit more flexible option for player.

Are there any workarounds?

No.

Any links to related discussions?

• Recording automation in Perform mode for Play (declined)
• Applying the performance mode’s effects permanently

Any references to other products?

Teenage Engineering PO-33 or any PO, actually.

[icaria36]

If Applying the perform mode's effects permanently would be implemented, why would this feature make a difference? Honest question. I understand that a user may want to repeat a great performance they just had, but I don’t understand the practical difference between applying those perform mode effects to the project (the other wish) and recording them as automation (this wish). I wonder whether they are just to ways to achieve the same result or they provide different end results for the user.

[ambivalence]

check our discussion in that thread:

Recording automation in Perform mode

Now I don’t get it. These are two very different wishes. This one: Player hold some effect pad for one second while recording, just the way he could record knobs. When the affected sequence starts all over again, the same effect applied automatically on top of the previously selected tracks for the same one second. That one: Player pressed some effects’ pads, so the effects are applied to the whole track. Let’s say, it’s a changed note +1. Player applies the effect and user have all the n…

there’s hell of a difference between applying some effect to a whole pattern and to just a couple of moments of it. for example, you won’t apply → save any «loop» effects to a whole pattern, right? also, currently you apply performance effects to a whole set of selected tracks, but with such automation lanes, on the contrary, you could record different performance activations/deactivations for each track separately. last, but not least, user could render it later.

have you ever used PO-33? recording FXs in real time is fun, it just makes everything 3d. when I bought Play, I actually thought it would be the definitive upgrade in such functionality, not downgrade.

upd, related:

Perform mode: selecting more tracks w/o being affected by currently applied effects

What is the problem? Sometimes you apply some cool stuff on your drum section and then you’d like to select some melodic tracks to apply some different perform effects as well. Currently, you cannot. What do you want to achieve? It would be a great to be able to select more tracks without applying the same effects to all of them, kinda layered way. This is the way the knobs work: when you filtered something out, for example, and then select an additional new track, it won’t be filtered/affect…

[Hans]

@ambivalence Thanks for your contribution. Unfortunately, the wish doesn’t fit our current product design direction.

[ambivalence]

too bad, seems like I’m skipping Play+. this feature would make it a really great performing/inspirational device.