Add more amp attack time steps between 0.000 and 0.010 seconds

[Sineway]

What is the problem?

The amp attack envelope makes a very large leap from 0.000 to 0.010 seconds with no steps in between. This forces you to use the sample editor for snappier attacks if all you want is to remove an unwanted click from a sample start point.

What should this feature achieve?

This would allow for more surgical precision of the amp envelope which would allow for snappy transients while avoiding unpleasant clicks.

Are there any workarounds?

Using the Sample Editor to apply a fade in effect at a tiny selection at the start of a sample.

Any links to related discussions?

I see other wishes for different forms of amp envelopes (log, scaling).

Additional Envelope types (Log, Lin, Exp)

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Better value scaling for more precise control over small values (eg. Envelope attack time)

What is the problem? Many pieces of software and hardware will scale the control ranges of a parameter in order to facilitate user control. For example ableton devoted 1/3 of their delay time range to values below 10ms and 1/3 of the range to values over 1000ms. This style of control is incredibly useful and musical. What do you want to achieve? Precise control over transient design especially. This somewhat exponential value approach at the beginning and end of the value ranges could be appli…

The latter one is sort of asking for the same thing, but it doesn’t explicitly call out the elephant in the room, which is that the amp attack envelope is either too soft or too instant (leading to unwanted clicks). Its suggested solution is more generally applied across amp and filter envelopes, delay times, etc. Not knowing how the product team is weighing things like ROI, I’m proposing this much more simple solution as a possibly easier thing to implement without touching a number of other product components. As someone wrote as a comment to the scaling feature, it really is the amp envelope that needs this the most.

Any references to other products?

I think all the other instruments/samplers/grooveboxes I’ve used so far have a snapper amp envelope than the Polyend Tracker+/Mini, including:

• MC-101
• MPC
• Digitakt
• Syntakt
• Hydrasynth
• Digitone
• Minilogue XD
• JX-08

Possibly the SP-404 MKII had a less snappy envelope similar to the Tracker.

[Sandroid]

As i’ve come to expect from you, a very well formed, clear to the point wish. Thanks!

[borsuk]

@Sineway Thanks for your contribution. Unfortunately, we have to decline your wish because of hardware limitations.

[Sineway]

Understood, thanks.