Replace notes while recording (overdubbing)

purrsoundsystem · May 30, 2023, 11:11pm

Notes Replace Mode when entering notes directly on the Tracker or via MIDI.

A recording mode in which while live-recording, it will replace existing notes on a track, when new notes are entered for the step. Either when recording directly on the Tracker or via MIDI.

What is the problem?

When recording notes on the tracker it records on the first pass, afterwards when you press a pad for a note or a slice it will only record something if the step is empty, nothing can be recorded between a step and note end.

What do you want to achieve?

Ability to select/arm a track, press record, capture notes and keep adding them whilst replacing old notes. It would be easier to program using input from the tracker pads. This would allow you to listen while you are recording the notes, as at the moment it feels like you have only one chance to get it right. If you haven’t recorded the notes right you have to delete and then start again.
This option could make live-recording more versatile.

Are there any workarounds?

You can record the steps and then change them with the knob dial. It’s ok but a bit time consuming when you have more than one pattern, you end up spending most of the time searching. You can arm record and change the notes by pressing the pads but you are chancing and everything is guess working.

Any links to related discussions?

Any references to other products?

The Octatrack allows you to replace notes continuously, new note in - old one out.
this is a feature included in some daws when you can choose how to record, merge/replace/etc

Sandroid · June 1, 2023, 6:42pm

I have changed the wording slightly so that it is a feature that can be used with or without MIDI. I hope that is ok.

purrsoundsystem · June 1, 2023, 7:51pm

Sounds good to me.

borsuk · June 12, 2023, 2:49pm

@here Thanks for your wish. It’s now ready for voting

ger.hartnett · September 25, 2023, 10:17pm

It would be useful to add the string overdub to the title because that is the string I searched for when looking for this feature request.

I’m a new user of the tracker and I really like it so far but this is the biggest gap in the product in my opinion.

Three an old Github repo with this feature request also and some of the users there make compelling points.

github.com/polyend/TrackerBetaTesting

'MONO' mode

opened 12:41AM - 08 Feb 21 UTC

talktogreg

enhancement

Consider the option for a 'MONO' for LIVE recording. Explanation: When enter…ing notes (instruments/fxs), the Tracker is effectively working in held-MONO mode. By this, each note is held until it is replaced with the next. (you can cut it short by adding an OFF/CUT/FADE) or changing the ADSR envelope etc. The important bit is that the NEXT note cuts the last. Indeed you can also insert new notes in between existing ones, and the new will cut its predecessor and intern get cut by the next. In LIVE rec mode though, we are essentially in 'POLY' mode, spread across the available Tracks as prescribed but the ARM settings. This is fine. But, if you only have 1 Track ARMed, the each note still places an OFF on release, and in fact you HAVE TO release the note before another is played. This is quite hard to do on the silicon pads. Could it hence be possibly to enter a more 'MONO' mode if only one Track is ARMed where if a new note is entered (silicon pads of via MIDI) it would cut the previous note (even if key is still being held). Additionally, this would allow for the Track to loop whilst recording and overdub. My reasoning is for entering mostly bass-lines as a single Track. Having to carefully lift a key before the next is very difficult as hence notes get missed. The only other way around this is to ARM two or more tracks, and then copy back any notes that overflow, which is tedious. ------------ BONUS POINTS if 'last note priority' was supported. ie - play a pad (key) plays note - whilst still holding the above, play another pad (key) - new note plays - release 2nd pad (key), 1st note gets re-triggered. This is how MONO is supported on the majority of synths.

srmaietta · September 26, 2023, 2:31am

Yeah, traditionally this has been called overdub.
Good idea!

dan.apeks · February 5, 2024, 11:37am

This would be great - a definite workflow improvement!

env · February 5, 2024, 1:20pm

Got my vote. Added a tag for the Mini though

nanonic · July 10, 2024, 2:18pm

Yeah!! This would be great! The current workflow is very confusing because it seems to jump tracks at random. ( I now realise this is due to samples that don’t have OFFs, which is very unintuitive )