i wish for more agile control of pattern switching per track in performance mode unless im missing something. i would assume tracker, tracker + and mini could all use this. right now it is unpredictable. is there a way to make the change happen immediately while still using cc input? i want to change patterns with my hapax.
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and it often falls out of sync by an 16th note when tracker is following hapax tempo which is otherwise very tight
is anybody using cc to choose patterns? how are you doing it and are you satisfied with your results?
wow nothing?
kinda weak i gotta say.
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clearly it’s not a much used feature.
if it helps you, i’ll be willing to give this a try later tonight.
so are you always using the song mode? how do you switch patterns during playback?. tell me how you deliver your patterns in a performance? why was the capability to switch patterns per track with cc given if it wasnt meant to be used in this way? another way to change the tracks you want to another pattern while in performance mode is to hold down the track buttons you wana change and turn the jog wheel. but even then it falls out of sync by a 16th note, and not even every track, sometimes its only 1 track that falls out of sync. the only other way to change patterns on the fly is in pattern mode, choosing the pattern button and then one of the lit up buttons. this changes all the tracks at once and still randomly falls 16th note out of sync. so is the only way to switch patterns without problems to use song mode? this is not ‘live’. i want to switch up patterns on the fly, like any other sequencer device i have ever owned. unless theres a way im missing that is intended. what do you do?
Yes i am - for the most part. I like to build pattern arrangments, so song mode it usually is.
During playback there is a couple ways as you know and mentioned:
- From within the Pattern-View - by holding the Pattern Screen-Key and using the Arrow keys.
- In Performance Mode - by holding the Screen-Buttons for the Tracks you want to change and with the Arrow keys
I noticed you mentioned only the jogwheel to change patterns. Are you aware of the two different modes that the Arrow-Keys have for changing patterns?
- Left / Right Arrow keys will queue the next pattern
- Up / Down Arrow keys will immediately switch to the next pattern
This behaviour works in the Performance as well as Pattern-View.
Maybe that helps? I’m still going to check out changing patterns via CC as i have never tried that yet and will report back.
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ok ill try the arrow keys. but honestly, there should be an easier way that actually works to tool around all the patterns you create. song mode is really inadequate in tracker og and doesnt allow improvisation or even editing like insert or anything but the whole pattern when a lot of the time i want just part of a pattern, also, if your patterns arent the same number of steps as each other, when you return to a longer pattern, its like 4 measures off or whatever the length of the shorter pattern was. this creates a disconnect that is not conducive to creating a drum track or whatever.
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im pretty happy with whats there otherwise. just so you know. are these behaviors different in tracker + or mini?
No, this is the same across all trackers.
Just had a go at Performance Mode with changing Patterns via MIDI CC.
It would seem that via CC the behaviour is, that it queues the next pattern and does not instantly change to the next pattern. I don’t think there is a way to force instant change via CC either.
Knowing this, there is a positive and a negative takeaway:
- that means you got actually a bit of play on when you want to change a pattern. To be on the safe side that means trigger the change a little earlier so that it’s queued.
- On the negative side, it also means that the pattern will only change once the currently running pattern has played to the end
ok so i knew all this. it doesnt work with a pattern based sequencer that sends PC. you know, this would be ideal behavior if it were instant and didnt fall out of sync. like i said its unpredictable. maybe im stuck using shorter pattern lengths so the changes happen quicker. id like to request that this behavior is fixed and honestly thats the only thing i would want as far as further development on the OG. without it, its slightly more usable with the track select and arrow method but not nearly as much as if you could instantly change pattern with cc. oh boy do i wish i could operate tracker this way! especially since i do love how it sounds with the saturation and limiter etc.
please polyend fix this? its the only thing between the OG being junky and classic unless youre so into song mode. id love to animate with my mothership sequencer! what a useful thing it would be were that fixed and updated.
There are two similar wishes in existence (yet not entirely what you are asking for), that are looking for votes:
- Listen to Program Change, to change patterns via Midi
- Improve immediate pattern switching behaviour in Performance mode
If you’d feel like those do not cover your exact wish, feel free to create a specific wish in Draft wishes 
yeah. good stuff.
im just asking for this capability to be fixed. its obviously possible to instantly switch patterns using the right/left buttons. the machine is capable. its really an obvious thing that is missing. i mean i love the clicky buttons but this should just work. further development in this area of capability would be massive for tracker+ mk2 and make all OGs and + obsolete! see this is how to get me to buy again if you make it only on current models lol i would totally throw money at that if i had to.
and im so sure every producer would love it. just think how nice it would be to control a tightly synced device throwin down the beats or whatevs but you could choose to pair it with an MPC, even an older one, or even any cheap controller interface i believe. program changes are where its at too for hyper animating things. at least how i use stuff. and if theres one thing we all could always use its easy ways to be agile with simplicity
does the play+ have cc control over pattern playback?
No, it’s actually an open wish:
cool. so this isnt an obvious thing i take it. like it wouldnt make everyones life just so much easier? i feel like this is an essential.
I think the main takeaway here is, that most people use either the Tracker or the Play as their main sequencer and control things from it, and not to it.
For example, for me the Tracker is my brain for everything else hardware or software wise. I personally would find it useful to have pattern switching on the Play.
But i’ll agree that having this functionality on both devices would definitely open it up for more usecases.