Beat Slice Root Note is C2, Note Grid Displays C3 upwards. No apparent way to config either option

[donnachacostello]

Bug Description

Beat Slice root note default is inconsistent with the available device UI option. Default root note is C2 and does not seem to be configurable. Default UI of note grid starts with C3 and does not seem to be configurable. Using beat slice mode requires laborious manual work every single time. This is a poor experience :-/

Steps to Reproduce

Use an instrument in beat slice mode, try to enter C2 from note grid. Simply not possible.

Occurrence / Frequency

Always

Found in Firmware

• Version: 2.0.1
• Build: 1061

Attachments

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[Dann]

Hey there @donnachacostello, welcome to Backstage. Great to have you here and thanks for taking the time to report this

[donnachacostello]

Thank you, @Dann
It would be great to see this resolved.
It would make a critical improvement to the usability of the device when beat slice mode is required.

[Dann]

@donnachacostello I believe that the issue linked below would solve this issue. What do you think?

New note entry mode has misconfigured Root Note with beat slice mode

Bug Description When trying to play some chopped samples via beat slice mode which triggers from C2 upwards… Even though I have those notes/that octave selected in note mode, if I press the C2 note, it triggers C5? It shows all the notes for the C2 octave on screen but when I trigger them, they’re in octave 5? Steps to Reproduce Set root note in project settings to C2 Select a sample, set it to beat slice in the sample playback menu. Chop the sample into a few slices From pattern mode, hold Sh…

[donnachacostello]

Thanks.
Different issue, so I hadn’t watched the video but Note Grid is visible beginning at C2 in the video.

Looks like this would require installing the beta firmware, correct? Or have I missed settings in the current firmware that would change the default UI of Note Grid to begin at C2 rather than C3?

[Dann]

Yeah sorry I missed that we’re talking different firmwares. Thanks for taking the time

[Dann]

Going to give it another stab, but I believe we’re talking about the same thing as linked below. Did I get it right this time?

Beat slice starts on C2 but lowest default middle C is C3

Bug Description Using beat slice to chop up sample automatically associates each slice with step starting at C2. The lowest Middle-C is C3. My expectation is that I should be able to set the default octave to whatever I want Reproduction Steps Open the Settings menu and go to the midi controls, select middle C Occurrence Always Found in 1.1.0

[Dann]

Going to tag this as a duplicate unless @donnachacostello you want to say otherwise.

[donnachacostello]

Thanks @Dann it’s similar but not a 100% duplicate

The response to that user’s issue. ie “it’s not a bug, that’s how it’s designed” is not a satisfactory answer because it ignores the problem.

This response is going to be detailed - please know I’m not a lunatic - just a customer who is trying to make the device work.

There is a UX issue which is neither resolvable in the current firmware, nor in either of the two currently available beta firmwares by themselves.

If you want to take the position that it’s not a “bug” by definition, that’s a choice - yes, technically, the device is working as-designed with the current firmware. However, it makes “beat slice” unusable.

To restate the challenge:

1. “Beat slice” slices start at C2
2. C2 is not available in “Note Grid”
3. Therefore, it is impossible to enter notes corresponding to slices 1-12 without excessive additional work, rendering it impractical on the Mini.

I have engineered a fix for myself but it is extremely convoluted, involving two separate firmware updates, and not something everyone may want to do.

1. Install beta firmware 1153b
2. Notice, “Note Grid” does not appear when “note” is pressed in rec mode (maybe that’s a bug to be reported)
3. Create a new project.
4. Go to “Project Settings” in Config.
5. Observe that a new “root note” option exists in this firmware.
6. Set “root note” to C2
7. Save the project with a memorable name - I used the filename RootC2 - as you will be using this as your default template from now on.
8. Install firmware 1156b
9. Notice that 1156B does not have the “Root Note” option available in project settings.
10. Observe that “Note Grid” does launch in this firmware when pressing “Note” but it starts at C3, as in the current firmware, with no way to adjust that default.
11. Now load the “RootC2” file you made in the previous firmware
12. Observe that “Note Grid” now magically starts from C2 (yay!). While the “Root Note” setting in “Project Settings” may no longer be there, it seems that root note data is still present and read in the file by the firmware.
13. Every time you want to start a new project, instead of using “New Project” in “File”, you will need to load your “RootC2” template file instead.
14. Before you start any work, make sure you save the project under a different name, to avoid accidentally over-wring your template, or you will have to go back to step 1 to be able to make another.

It’s a workaround but really shouldn’t be necessary.