Polyend Tracker as a DAW

I would be suprised if the Dev Team havent considered this at some point, but given that I can’t see any mention of it I thought I would raise the question.

Is there or has there been any plans to port the sequencer running within the PT to PC in some digital form, so that PT users can use it to sketch idea while not physically working on the hardware trackers?

Yes, there are other DAW trackers out there, and with some preparation and planning you can port a track from hardware to software or software to hardware.
But it would be much easier if we just had access to a software version of the tracker to work with.

Other machine-makers have done similar, giving users of the hardware quick and convenient ways to write in and out of the box… from Dirtywave’s headless-tracker to Behringers porting of their Deepmind to free VST (as well as their MusicTribe app that lets you write and transfer sequences to various sequencers).

Is this possible?
Obviously the alternative is just to use other trackers or daws, but if we had the tracker running any kind of sequencing or editing out-of-the-box would be quicker and easier when working with the exact same tracker and function set/parameters.

Or has the idea been considered and rejected for some other reason?

Hey @leondawson69 this has somewhat come up before but is most likely not going to happen anytime soon.

There was a wish for VST style integration into DAWs:

I think it makes sense to not go down that route, especially since there are - as you say yourself - many alternative solutions for tracking on computers. Renoise being definitely the best choice all in all.

The thing that probably has the highest chance of seeing fruition is this (go vote for it :smirk:):

With this the community could build their own tools to convert tracker projects to whatever our hearts desire. Of course there are still limitiations, specifically the synths that have been added in the Tracker+ / Mini, but we could atleast extract the pattern/note information to do someting with (or bring it back).

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Sorry for the ignorant question, but since there is a Max4Live editor, this means that VST editor would not be an impossible in any DAW with example CTRLR, so you could do automations from your fav daw?

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Not a ignorant question at all! Happy to clarify :blush:

This actually works because the Tracker has MIDI CC that you can send to it.
This is however just a one-way street.

Here’s the list of all MIDI CC’s that the Tracker currently supports:

So essentially this Max For Live Extension is just(*) a User Interface that sends MIDI CC messages.

(*) I don’t mean that in any mean way. It’s cool that it exists!

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Is the midi implementation the same for all the Polyend Trackers or is there an addon for Tracker Plus?

Currently they are the same for the Tracker / Tracker Mini and Tracker+.

Thanks, what topic maker is asking for is that a vst controller or like Roland Cloud Manager / Akai MPC Software, where the device works like a dongle for a software?

No, i think the original poster is asking for a software version of the Tracker.
As in: a software version that works exactly like the Hardware.

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Ah, that might be an issue as such requires ressources.

Alternative, a modern software that can edit .MOD files?

Example:

And for those that want to experience peak Tracking back in the Amiga days:

Just to clarify…
My original question was indeed for a Polyend Tracker Tracker, or rather a Tracker by Polyend to write and load from the Polyend Tracker range (erm companion DAW).

Someone mentioned the use of .MOD editors, I had considered this however as far as I am aware (unless Polyend have backtracked in the latest firmware update) .MOD support has been dropped from the Tracker. If .MOD support was reinstated there might still be an issue, as taking a .MOD from one workspace to another might not translate perfectly, whereas what I am hoping for is a seemless translation from one place to another so regardless of where the project is loaded it will sound exactly the same (Software/DAW) - with the same effects, the same constraints channel etc (as opposed.
**It was mentioned that it was put in, maybe I missed an update because I specifically looked to see if .MOD support was back and I couldnt see it.

As for the MAX For Live segment of comments :
Thanks for providing the MIDI CC list, that will come in handy for me.

…I have been jumping back and forward between Ableton, Reason, Renoise and a few other software trackers over the last few months, the closest experience to the Polyend Tracker workflow is Renoise. there are issues that arise when moving between polyend tracker and something like renoise though. Primarily the migration of data and secondary the lack of limitations where things like channels and effects are concerned with the software alternatives.
…I like the way polyend projects are stuctured, coming from oldschool hardwares MPC or various daws I can appreciate the way all files used are dumped within the project folder so files dont get lost, as opposed to having to locate files from a pool of samples and patches and then manually trasfering them or even having to remake a similar patch from scratch.
…And this is what would make having a software companion from Polyend so valuable resource. No need to redesign a sound (patch) you made in a software or DAW or try to recreate an effect.

Anyway, thanks again to those that commented.
I hope Polyend give the idea further consideration as not only would it be a bonus for users but also it may be an incentive for those that would otherwise be put of by hardware-exclusive sequencing and so give the Polyend range a pass in favour of something else (the post-Alesis MPC range for example).