Micromove prevents Play X | Skip X

Bug
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Bug Description

When using Micro Move on a step with Play 1| Skip 1 it will ignore the Play 1 | Skip 1.

Reproduction Steps

  1. Place a sample on any step (I did 4 on the floor kick)
  2. Apply Play 1 / Skip 1 chance for Play Sample
  3. Adjust micro move on sample by any value other than 0 and the sample will Play repeatedly
  • Note that if Skip 1 / Play 1 is selected it will exclusively skip the sample
  • Also note, if a longer variation like Play 4 | Skip 4 is used and you change Micromove while it is skipping it will continue to skip indefinitely

Occurrence

Bug is reproducible: Always

Troubleshooting:

  • Restarted Play, made a new pattern, made a new project, used different samples

Tested and Found in

  • Version: (1.2.0)
  • Version: (1.1.0)
  • Version: (1.0.0)
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@liminaleris thank you for reporting this and sorry you’re experiencing the problem! We will try to fix this in the upcoming updates.

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This is still an active issue as of version 1.4.1 and prevents built in fill patterns from functioning as intended and doesn’t allow for more off grid groove with chance.

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Seconds after writing the reply the same pattern I had issues with worked so this may have been pebkac :sweat_smile: I will investigate further

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I think I’m finding a variation of this. I believe micromove prevents all Play X | Skip X. I can’t get any skips.

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MicroMove issue does NOT occur when apply Move (to at least one step event in track) - then MicroMove works with Chance logic. Reviewed other projects/patterns using the MicroMove feature and a Move occurred in each (before applying the off-grid feel).

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Confirmed to also be present in the Play+ by @donald.finch

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I’ll second that confirmation. I actually forgot all about this bug, but it was one of the reasons I moved away from the Play+ as a main sequencer after using it to write my last album. So thanks for reminding me😂 The workaround I used was to just avoid the chance function entirely and map out the song note for note in song mode😵‍💫

You can do it, Polyend! Squash them bugs​:sign_of_the_horns::heart:

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The play (n)/skip (n) and skip (n)/play (n) settings dont seem to work on time micro adjusted steps. The percentage chance works fine though. This is easily re-creatable.

I see that this is a known bug. Odd that it has been recorded for as long as it has and not addressed.

It’s kind of a big deal to sort. The generative/variability of play is literally the primary selling feature of the play series. If you can break a primary function with a vital sequencing tool… That’s not great.

Any idea if/when this is getting sorted polyend?

I love the play. This situation has made me sad.

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Just came here to note that this is still a provlem

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I have found a potential workaround for this. If the note containing the micromove and one of the play/skip, or skip/play, values, the note cannot be placed in the same track as any note from the same synth. For example,

If the user has the first 3 tracks filled with notes from synth 1, and they want to add a play/skip value to a note containing a micromovement, that note will have to be place in one of tracks 4-8.

It seems that if the new track for the single synth 1 note contains notes from either synth 2 or 3, it does not negatively impact the reliability of the chance parameter. Just notes of the same synth.

I am running on firmware v1.3.0 and build 2097 for the Play+