Control the Density/Range of an Action when using Chance

The user would be able to choose the density/depth to the range of the active Chance.

What is the problem?

Currently the user can choose the Chance that an Action triggers, but the range of the Action is not configurable

What do you want to achieve?

The ability to decide on the Range of the Action. We could say Depth or Density as well. Another way to look at it (for you modular folks) is an ability to apply attenuation to the Action.

Are there any workarounds?

No

Any links to related discussions?

No

Any references to other products?

  • Polyend Tracker - Fill Tool’s Density is a good example of this.
  • Arturia Beatstep Pro has solved this in useful and controllable way: ‘randomness’ (adjusts the allowed range for random value) and 'probability (adjusts how likely the random value change will occur)
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Hi @nevenbucevic, thanks so much for your wish. On the first read, it looks quite close to this wish which was unfortunately declined.

If you feel there’s something different that you are asking for over the previous declined wish, please let us know.

Thanks and all the best!

This is different. Im ok with the chance selection, i want to control how much action is applied

Aah i didnt get it.
So…
When you choose 80% chance a random note occurs you want to be able to set the amount of the randomness like +/- 10% (which could equal like 6 semitones).
So your fine with the choice in occurance and just want to be able to control/temper the result.

Am i inderstanding you correctly?
THAT i would definitely like!
Shift-chance is a good one :+1:

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Thats right. Or there is an 80% chance to change the cutoff frenquency. Im ok with the 80% percent of chance, i just want to select how much frequency will be cutoff. So i would like to have an 80% percent of chance to change 30% (or a random amount up to 30%) of cutoff frenquency. Or in your example, if i choose a random note in scale 30% percent would be around 5 semitones up and down.

Totally get what you’re saying here. Chance controls the possibility of the event, but you want better control of the density of the event.

Have I got that right?

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Yes that is right.

Maybe a comparison with CV/modulation amount is suitable in the wish?

Wait, there was no such a wish before?
Lacking control of chance range is why I mostly ignore the chance feature.
Microtune makes too much detune for me, micromove moves notes too much off the grid, octave up jumps too high and so on.

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Yeah. Same with me

Excellent. If it’s ok with you, I will clarify the wish so that it’s clear for the Polyend team. If ever you are not happy with it, I can easily revert back to your original wording.

Does that sound like a good plan?

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Sure, no problem. Im ok with that

Agreed, If you think of it like Ableton’s LFO I would think of it like setting the “depth” and the the current value being the “offset”. I might call it Range of action in chance or Depth of action, as percentage does get confusing with there already being percentage options.
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Great. I’ve made some edits. Please let me know what you think :slight_smile:

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This is much better. Ty

My upmost pleasure! Thank you for the wish. This is one I would love to see come true one day :slight_smile:

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@here Thanks for your wish. It’s now ready for voting :slight_smile:

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P.s. I will remove “Allow the user to…” from the title, as pretty much every wish could start with these words :slight_smile: