Live Performance project switching

Hi, how do you use Play+ in live performance? I’ve created few projects and wanted to use for live playing. But reloading project can take 30sec. So delay between songs becomes too long. I was thinking to place all songs within single project, but the tempo is only global per project. This would require adjusting manually between each songs. Note, I don’t need transition between each song. Also I would have to load lots of samples and which may become overhelming.

Thanks For any suggestiongs and tips

Petr

I’ve done it by having my partner jam while the next track is loading. Use the constraint as a creative force.

Hey @acodal, welcome to Backstage! :party:

I was going to suggest something similar. Maybe a looper that could allow you to capture a small portion of your running track, which you could trigger/play while you are switching tracks.

And the hardcore/expensive option of course it to use two devices with a mixer - DJ Style :sweat_smile:

How’s your stage banter? If you’re not into talking to the audience, do you happen to have any other devices that could keep things interesting (like an ambient drone synth or some samples)? Generally speaking, it’s best to try and use up as many of the pattern sections as possible with as many songs as you can fit into a single project and just kinda play with the tempo or write it down on a note to use as a reference on stage. As long as you stay away from using a bunch of long samples, things should flow pretty well with “on the fly” adjustments.

I always always record on studio short songs to play between projects. Short songs that usually ends with the key of the next song and it works perfect because you have a continuous live set.

I use a sampler to launch it BUT you can use even your smartphone. So between projects, a little song. And works very very good!!

thanks guys. You really helped me to decide. I do have external sampler (Blackbox). So, going to rework my flow to keep playing some stuff from the sampler. Minewhile switching my Play. But, I’m sure I will forget many times :slight_smile:

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Having a blackbox is perfect for that.

I had much the same decision to make a couple of months ago.
I didn’t really want to be waiting about for the projects loading, because people lose interest and stop dancing, so I actually ended up buying another Play+ (justified as a birthday present).
Then having the same projects on both, and alternating between the devices.
To get them in sync, I used my “Midronome” (the thing with the knob and numbers in the middle of the image below), with clock/note distribution being done by a pair of Tubbutec TRS bridge modules.
The audio was mixed together via a 1010Music Bluebox (also used for multitrack recording of the performance).
My original intention for mixing between tunes was to use a tablet running TouchOSC for more professional crossfade for the Bluebox channels, but because I was having some cable issues, and to prevent flamming between the play devices (if I didn’t start “on the beat” enough), what I just ended up doing was start the next tune on the last beat of the previous one.
The laptop in the picture was just for my performance notes :smiley:

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Hmm actually… I was using Play as MIDI clock source. If I use Blackbox (or even Bluebox). then I may not need to care changing tempo and I can have all in single project. That would work (at least for some time). I used to have this setup, but for some latency issues when recording I started using Play as main source. But, for live performance recording latency not an issue.