If I’m recording and i make mistakes I want to start fresh I think I should just be able to press/hold delete and it deletes the steps under the red step/play head as it moves downwards. The amount of key presses to clear the track and get back to where I was is absurd, unless I’m missing a short cut.
Press record twice to get into edit mode (not moving downwards).
Shift+home to go back to start of pattern.
Shift+up to select all the steps on the track.
Delete, to delete.
Record+play to start recording again.
That’s 6 key presses and combinations!!!
I could just be pressing and holding delete while it’s in recording mode!
The tracker is getting so labour intensive the more I learn.
Of course I don’t know your experience, but there certainly is a learning curve to a tracker (not just this hardware version, but the workflow in general) that is quite steep and a little unintuitive compared to other DAWs.
From my experience, there is a focus on accuracy with trackers and having a good idea of what you want to do and how to do it beforehand will pay dividends in the final result. The former might be easier, but the latter requires the learning and forethought.
While it’s true there are different ways of doing things - 6 steps instead of one on another platform/ DAW whatever, I don’t think this is absurd so much as it is a different way of reaching that musical goal.
Don’t forget that there are many ways that trackers blow traditional DAWs out of the water when it comes to the realisation of certain musical ideas.
Also, if you’ll indulge me, we are on this earth to learn - self-improvement is one of the highest goals we can achieve.
Learning is all, not mastery, but the path.
Sadly, the more you learn, the more you know there is to learn. Oh well.
Yeah using the Tracker really needs time and experience before becoming efficient with it. With enough experience it becomes 2nd nature to do these commands and you should get to a point where it’s like touch typing.
Thank you yes I agree and I really love so much about the tracker so it’s worth fighting to get my head around certain draw backs. I guess I just don’t understand why such a common and important process seems so unrefined deleting steps should be a matter of pressing delete. I made the post incase I was missing another way of doing that.
I just wanna press delete and start I’m the armed recording mode it takes me out of the performance. I hoped someone would say there is a faster way. I’ll keep trying because I love the tracker in many ways.
I know how you feel, as I’m sure many people here do.
The PT was my first experience witrh a tracker workflow, well, I’d used Elektron boxes for a while, and even when it was pointed out by one of their devs that their sequencing was based on trackers, I didn’t really get it.
But after so many years of trying to make Jungle/ DnB type stuff, it has finally clicked and I don’t think I’ll ever go back to something as clunky as the MPC or Live, despite their overall power. The PT and Renoise are where it’s really at for the type of music I’ve been trying to make all this time, it’s just a pity that it has taken me this long to find it.
Good luck to you. I’m sure you’ll find the uniqueness of the tracker a valuable tool in some way!
I agree with this idea. Just because there are other ways of using the workflow doesn’t negate the utility of a UI suggestion. Considering that you can record notes actively this way, it is most logical that you could unrecord the same way you add notes.
I am recording steps, it’s playing and recording. I put in some steps , they’re incorrect, I want to just press/hold delete to delete what’s under the moving active step. Yet I have to: stop the moving active step, go to top, select all, delete. Then go back to what I was attempting.
It’s absurd the delete button does nothing when the cursor is moving in record mode. It’s a wasted button and it says delete on it. Yet it does not delete. It’s not logical and takes many key presses to clear the track and start the recording process again. It’s not logical and it’s taxing. Bad UX.
I must be missing something because how I read what you wrote above, this is exactly how the Tracker works. When in Rec mode (Red) I can hold down Delete and move the cursor. It will delete anything under the cursor.
Don’t forget about the Undo. The tracker hold an impressive amount of Undo steps
I don’t know how much more clear I can be I have written the issue over and over …are you drinking?
I said it’s playing and in record mode. Record +play. The cursor is moving from top to bottom awaiting my performance on the pads. Any mistake requires the steps I described.
You want to press delete while live recording to erase what you recorded without leaving live recording mode. That’s currently not possible.
If you double press rec, you are entering step rec mode, while still playing and hold down the delete button, it erases all steps from top to bottom. You can even use it creatively when setting a step count to delete only every 4th step etc.
Pressing Play+Rec again while still playing you are in live recording mode again and can jam to your heart’s content.
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Ok sorry. Thank you for the input now I have two possible work around I still think delete should delete things in every mode it just makes logical sense and is convenient.
