You’re welcome😊
So you want to hear your external synth while a pattern is playing and the synth is sequenced via midi (or you play midi notes on the synth)? You can use a ts or trs cable from the synth output to the line in of the tracker and unmute it in the mixer. You even can use trackers fx (reverb and delay) with your external gear.
I had no idea. Mixer with line in exists.
Mind blown! Thank you!
Off to play with my Tracker now!
The real issue is that you can’t sample or record this input in realtime. Obviously it’s great to jam along, but being able to capture it would be the big coup de grace.
But that’s what my L6 is for I guess?! I feel like live capture from the input has got to be a goal on the horizon for the development of the device. It make a lot of sense.
Yep, it’s a very, very primitive sampler, especially considering the apparent flexibility of the GUI and device architecture.
Too little devs, too many products, no focus.
I’m waiting/hoping for someone to reverse engineer the codebase and build chain. Not seeing any real incentives for the polyend team to stop pushing new hardware and start finishing their software projects.
Surely they could solve this in some way? Even just a render of the current patten (or a ‘select pattern’ option) then have it play a single .wav while you record your input! I just really need to hear some of my chord changes in order to play my guitar along. This means anytime i want to play live overtop the tracker with another instrument that isn’t midi based, I am forced to bring along my bluebox even if i only have 1 extra instrument! If i want to play something live on the tracker I can’t do it while the sequence is playing, full stop. Very frustrating and flow-breaking when an idea comes to mind and i want to record it. 
Not sure what you mean by their “software projects” but one thing I am comfortable to say is that designing new products that make sales is one of many thing that makes older devices sustainable
Without any info on the Polyend team interworkings, I would feel confident to say that OG Tracker and Play support and firmware updates would have been much less likely and much less supported if the Synth and their Pedals were not released that provide a bit of sustainability that allow people like Polyend to continue to support devices that are years and years old.
You can increase your sales several times if you make the tracker a more flexible sampler that meets the user’s expectations. You just need to make a stable firmware and add all the tools that should be in an advanced sampler. I have already mentioned renoise / redux, look at their sampler - these technologies are many years old, they do not require resources, but it is simple and convenient.
Thanks in advance
Yeah we don’t know the inner workings of Polyend, however, I don’t agree that these updates would have only seen fruition with the release of all these other products, why release a product in the 1st place if you don’t have the capacity to support or update it during its product cycle.
Synthstrom Audio have supported a single product since 2016, that’s nye on 10 years and that was without until very recently a retail supply chain.
The constant release of new products without any significant improvements to their Play+ or Tracker+ products is affecting customer relations either here or other community forums and their appears to be a lack of trust from what could be potential customers as they witnessed the whole Play+ debacle.
What has been frustrating is the previous request by Polyend themselves for customer features/wishes only to then be told they won’t necessarily be implemented, well why ask? And let’s be honest here, all these companies (not just Polyend) already know what features they plan to add over a products lifecycle due to the ease of firmware updates these days, this is just how things are now, not like the 90’s or 00’s where a product was released when finished and firmware updates were mere bug fixes or quality of life improvements.
I can’t believe that the Tracker Mini update is still in beta and the next update is merely a merge of its two previous betas?
As for Play+, well, as much as I love the device, it’s basically the ugly sister of the product range, the lack of love shown to it since its release is strange, that finger drumming feature that was added 
where are the features that people would actually use, like resampling, usb file management, saturation insert, fixed length render, sample synth engine, slicing, recording performance effects, synth editing improvements?
As much as I like the products I own by Polyend and have been an advocate for their innovative devices in conversation, the slow updates and support of the Play+ in particular while constantly releasing new products is a tad frustrating unfortunately.
Well said, I don’t see any hopes since the traffic on this website or anywhere else that talking about Polyend products. It’s doomed.
I wouldn’t say doomed, but definitely has not helped them move forward in certain aspects. In the survey they sent out a couple weeks ago, they asked what would make me hesitant toward buying a new device from them. I was honest with them about the fact that the lack of progressive firmware updates that focused on bettering the coherency of the play+, and would be waiting til the firmware of any of the newer devices seemed to be stable and without having to include an incredible amount of work-arounds to acheive the results that are expected. Will they have to go back and reconsider somethings about their path forward, sure. But i dont think it means they’re bound to fail. If anything, i think they’re genuinely trying to listen to us and make decisions based on it (why send a survey backed by a gift give away if they weren’t interested?), but these decisions are just rolling out very slow. While I certainly would love to have the focus be entirely on my own devices, i also understand why they’ve decided to expand and can’t blame them for trying to go in new directions. It’s not a bad thing, but all decisions come with their consequences in both directions. For the quality and workflow, for me at least. I feel it’s woth holding onto and seeing where theyre going to take it. Mitch has pointed out in a couple other threads that the play and trackers were not becoming “abandonware” as well as considering the opinion of a software dev on the topic of 3rd-parties already building a brand new firmware for the OG tracker and that he planned to take it to the polyend dev team when they meet later this summer. I bet thats also why they sent out the survey🤷♂️ so, while i do agree with the sentiment that things are not moving as quickly as the community would like to see, i dont think they’ve completely left us in the dust. And while there are some jarring irregularities with design choices, their products are still very capable of some really cool stuff. I think the best thing we can do as a community is to focus on what awesomeness we can acheive with what we have today, while keeping the heat on polyend to stay sharp and give us the best of what they can offer us tomorrow. Besides, it’s this community of current users that are making sure they move into that tomorrow. It’s our word that they build their reputation on. To be honest, if we treat them like they’re doomed, then they very well might be. Then we’d be sure for some abandonware. I’m not saying we say their farts smell like roses, but there isn’t anything wrong with politely letting someone know to go use the restroom, if ya get my drift. Gotta be a team player, ya know?
Some of y’all need ti be playing more and worrying less what Polyend or any company is or isn’t doing. There’s nothing preventing you from making bangers with any Polyend gear. Period.
And if there really is, it’s 2025. We got a shit load of options out there.
It’s not rocket science. Time is short. Tomorrow ain’t granted. Choose wisely!
I personally want to see more development for Play+, is a fantastic piece of gear.
Respectfully, I’ve made more music or have plenty of jams on the Play+ than any other device I’ve used, the point being that I don’t want to use a Digitakt, a Mc707, a Maschine+… I am quite content creating on the Play+, my comments regarding updates come from an enthusiasm for the device and to see some good ol’ qol improvements for it.
respectfully, you seem to think that they owe you updates indefinitely which is unreasonable without releasing new products to make money, since updates to products they already sold make them 0 money and must cost a lot. They do owe us bug fixes — but updates? Why do you feel that you’re owed more than the product you originally bought? They have made significant updates since release of both the play+ and the tracker mini/+ and the bugs are pretty much gone for me. I just don’t see how you think a wishlist means obligation. It’s a wish list. The company needs to survive and pay their employees via money coming in first and foremost — then with extra time and money they get from selling new products they are able to invest time into updates. It shouldn’t be frustrating to see a new product being released it should be good news, it means they will have more money to use on their older updates (again, which they make a grand total of $0 for building)
True that they make £0 from existing owners, but the Tracker is still alive and well selling to new customers, for whom an updated product could be more attractive than perhaps an alternative. I have this view coming from my work life in enterprise software, but I think it applies here too.
You’re correct — Polyend wouldn’t do anything to any software (further than just bug fixes of the 1.0 firmware) if you weren’t. I’m sure there are quite a few people who bought the tracker mini after the ‘uuuge 2.0 update (or like me, bought it back since I previously sold it)— But it is a balance between moving people who are on the fence to purchase an older but recently updated product since our monkey brains still think “old thing not as good as new thing” and studies have shown we will pay significantly more for something that is ‘new’ even if it has 0 difference to the same thing that is a year old and untouched. And polyend actually made $0 from me since I got my 2nd one used — although not everyone will do that. I think compared to other synth companies, Polyend generally is killing it in the updates category. Every few months it seems they come up with something that changes the instrument enough that it feels new again, while still having the capacity to continue to release and develop innovative new products like “Mess”. They have a much bigger job than most since the tracker is a full DAW in a box unlike most other products that are simply singular parts of a music workstation.
I think we’re in agreement really, I am not saying that updates don’t bring in any money — just nothing when compared to a big new product launch.
But by the same measure, new OS updates cost way less to release.
By contrast, new product is more risky and requires an enormous amount of financial and labour investment.
Don’t get me wrong though I wish all they’d do forever is fix things and add new things to the tracker 
Well put.
At any rate the context is this thread is advanced sampler functions on the tracker.
It is a no brainer to add in a few new and cool functions. Some experimental stuff would be interesting and great.
Oh well, fuck it - they got me. I’ll just buy a polyend synth in the holidays, mainly as a tracker add on. Easier than waiting for new os stuff.
I’d love to get my hands on the source code and a way to compile the firmware.
@polyend you know where I am… (seriously)
