# Play+ knob sensitivity: flickering between upper/lower parameter when a knob is held **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive\ **Tags:** resolved\ **Created:** [December 13, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288 "2023-12-13T00:41:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alxzndr](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/alxzndr/32/436_2.png) [@alxzndr](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/alxzndr)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/1 "2023-12-13T00:41:28Z")
When touching any knob, it flickers between states. Means I can’t use the double tap feature. Play+, 1.01 Happened the same on the Play too. People can have very different conductivity and capacitance. I guess I’m at one of the extremes. I can’t upload an mp4 on android using the icon, so here’s a Google photos video link. > **[New video by Alexander](https://photos.app.goo.gl/T4aHVs4x6rQmJRdL6)** ---
**Author:** ![radfaraf](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/radfaraf/32/1296_2.png) [@radfaraf](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/radfaraf)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/6 "2023-12-13T14:21:31Z")
Curious if you had other people do the same thing for you to verify it’s actually related to differences in people’s fingers and not say something wrong with the unit you have specifically. ---
**Author:** ![miropoly](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/miropoly/32/45_2.png) [@miropoly](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/miropoly)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/10 "2023-12-14T13:26:24Z")
Duplicate reports? > [@Play+ touch knobs are really sensitive](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-touch-knobs-are-really-sensitive/6769): > > Compared to the Play the new Play+ is really sensitive. I assume there is no way to dial that up and down it is either on or off. Any one else feel that the touch is sensitive? ---
**Author:** ![dimi3](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/dimi3/32/2172_2.png) [@dimi3](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/dimi3)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/11 "2023-12-14T21:25:58Z")
Yes! ---
**Author:** ![alxzndr](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/alxzndr/32/436_2.png) [@alxzndr](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/alxzndr)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/12 "2023-12-14T21:51:27Z")
Hi, yes, the issue happened with one other person the same as me though not as intensely in a different location. Three other people were fine. It also worked fine for me and the other with whom the fault occured in yet another location. I’m based in Thailand and have measured the power at a stable 220V (grounded as I say), tested in air-conditioned environments. I’m sure your engineering team are “on it”. Is the issue is reproducible at your end? I wonder if there is an equivalent to a measurement hysteresis which might address the issue. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/borsuk/32/582_2.png) [@borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/borsuk)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/13 "2024-01-09T15:09:41Z")
@alxzndr Just to be sure. I want to cross out one possibility. There is also a chance, that the flickering encoders may be touching the metal chassis of the Play+. Could you try to move them up and down and left/right to bend them a little (carefully 😉 ). Let me know if there is any improvement. ---
**Author:** ![alxzndr](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/alxzndr/32/436_2.png) [@alxzndr](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/alxzndr)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/14 "2024-01-10T15:59:26Z")
Hi Borsuk, No difference - it’s occurring on all knobs too, just as on the two prior Play models which passed through my hands. Closed source and all that, but I’m curious if there’s a hysteresis effect could be tuned on these presumably capacitive knobs. ---
**Author:** ![vanheesthijs](https://backstage.polyend.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/c5a1d2/32.png) [@vanheesthijs](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/vanheesthijs)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/15 "2024-01-18T17:07:25Z")
I had the same issue. Switching the Polyend adapter to an Apple adapter fixed the problem for me. Best, Thijs ---
**Author:** ![creativeunderdogs](https://backstage.polyend.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@creativeunderdogs](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/creativeunderdogs)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/16 "2024-01-31T21:07:04Z")
I want to mention this happened to me twice on my Play+ and I found that if I “sweep” my hands over all of the knobs, just touching not pushing or anything, as if I were trying to “touch trigger” all of them at once, it fixed the issue immediately. I have not encountered it since. I hope this can help ---
**Author:** ![borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/borsuk/32/582_2.png) [@borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/borsuk)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/18 "2024-06-03T12:01:51Z")
Hi @here Thanks for your patience. We are doing our best to resolve this bug. We will notify you as soon as the firmware containing a fix for this issue is ready. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![noblecreative](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/noblecreative/32/1167_2.png) [@noblecreative](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/noblecreative)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/20 "2024-06-08T14:34:45Z")
Yeah I had it the other night skipping between menus, I tried to get to start a new project and I had to do a hard reset in the end. It still didn’t help and I had to time it (with luck) to start a new project. I thought I would have to send it back. I hope and update will fix it. The only thing so can add that might give a clue to what caused it for me, was that I was live recording parameters and adding some long reverbs and delays to them. ---
**Author:** ![borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/borsuk/32/582_2.png) [@borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/borsuk)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/21 "2024-11-12T10:48:38Z")
@here I’m glad to inform we adjusted the Knob sensitivity in the [latest firmware update](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/announcing-play-firmware-1-1/15709). ---
**Author:** ![cjclip](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/cjclip/32/3959_2.png) [@cjclip](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/cjclip)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/27 "2024-11-13T17:00:31Z")
Just pull knob up little bit and all will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![miropoly](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/miropoly/32/45_2.png) [@miropoly](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/miropoly)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/28 "2024-11-13T17:20:28Z")
There was actually another root cause for a similar problem which you’re referring to: [Play+ knob sensitivity: parameter values change without touching](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-parameter-values-change-without-touching/6769) This still exists and can happen when knobs are touching the metal chassis. ---
**Author:** ![cjclip](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/cjclip/32/3959_2.png) [@cjclip](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/cjclip)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/29 "2024-11-13T18:17:21Z")
Exactly, thanks for the clarification ---
**Author:** ![borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/user_avatar/backstage.polyend.com/borsuk/32/582_2.png) [@borsuk](https://backstage.polyend.com/u/borsuk)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://backstage.polyend.com/t/play-knob-sensitivity-flickering-between-upper-lower-parameter-when-a-knob-is-held/7288/30 "2024-11-19T11:50:24Z")
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